Carol A. Spradling, author

Jeanne · Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 2:29 am Post subject: Jeanne

Cale, like I said you can write. Really great to read that.
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DeliaM · Colonist Joined: 14 Apr 2008 Posts: 342

Jeanne....that was gorgeous. I felt your pain!!!! And you said that you had no talent~!!!!!

cale · Citizen Joined: 15 Apr 2008 Posts: 134 Location: Illinois

I won't tell you what I thought of your poem, since you didn't want to know, but I really enjoyed the past minute of my life.

DeliaM · Colonist Joined: 14 Apr 2008 Posts: 342

Sorry, Jeanne. I didn't see the part about not commenting.

Jeanne · Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 1:06 pm Post subject:

That's okay Delia. Really just my insecurities for sure. My poems are really depressing.

A comment to Cale about his prologue. I like this man in the book. This man has depth of feeling. I was wondering why he preferred a mare to a stallion. That really caught my attention. I will have to ask Tony if a mare rides differently than a stallion. I'm just curious is all. Tony used to own a horse and ride and he's into the Kentucky Derby and hardly a filly has won. So I'm going to ask him. You don't know me Cale, I look everything up when something intrigues me.
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Jeanne · Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 3:41 pm Post subject:

Now Carol, why would you put me in this upcoming talent???????? I don't have a talent. I know what is good and what is not. I just put a poem in there because I was blackmailed. My poem is just "okay" not spectacular. I only spent 5 minutes on it while I was sitting on the pot!!!
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CarolASpradling · Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 12:42 am Post subject:

You asked for us to not comment, but I have to say, Jeanne, this poem is wonderful. It's hard to believe you wrote this in five minutes. It's great.

If you want me to remove the thread, I will, but I hope you'll leave it. I'm sure others will enjoy it too.
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DeliaM · Colonist Joined: 14 Apr 2008 Posts: 342

Some of my best ideas come to me on the pot, also.

Jeanne · Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 12:37 pm Post subject:

Yes, a good thinking spot is on the pot!!!!

I was watching the Kentucky Derby yesterday. It is a ritual here since Tony is from Louisville. Anyways a filly was in the race and she almost won. She placed second. But at the end she broke both of her legs and they had to put her down on the track. Just freaked me out!!!! I was rooting for her. Tony said she was big for a filly. Cale, I like that your hero rides a mare. I think it shows the sensitive side of this man. And the fact that he likes to read poetry. I like that the woman knows all his secrets and knows him so well. But I guess in her case, love is blind, because she doesn't know this. Perhaps she loves him too. I don't know and he doesn't see it as well. I hope someday to know more of this book and what happens. Very Happy

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DeliaM · Colonist Joined: 14 Apr 2008 Posts: 342

OMG...I don't think I;m ever posting Comng Through the Fog. It's 50 pages long right now, and I'm having a writer's block.

Jeanne · Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 4:40 pm Post subject:

I would really like to read a little of what you have written Delia.
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cale · Citizen Joined: 15 Apr 2008 Posts: 134 Location: Illinois

Yeah Delia, share please! Very Happy

"Yes, a good thinking spot is on the pot!!!! " see Jeanne, even when you're not trying you show that your a true poet at heart.
I like that you are interested in my characters. The book starts off with the guy in love her, and she's just starting to come around to her own feelings. It's a definite "rich girls don't marry poor boys story" so there are elements of forbidden love involved, which I think is going to be common in my writing. I have always like the whole secret meetings, Romeo and Juliet, Lancelot and Guinevere type stories. It's a way to have the characters acknowledge their feelings with each other, and "be together" without actually being together. The girl is very compassionate but she learns what opportunities she has that others don't, and in turn what limitations she has that others don't. As for the guy, he also goes on a bit of a self journey, he's always answered and done everything by the book, and he must grow and become more assertive when it comes to himself in order to ever be happy.

Jeanne · Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 9:40 pm Post subject:

cale · Citizen Joined: 15 Apr 2008 Posts: 134 Location: Illinois

He limitations, are what is expected of her since she is of an upper class. Didn't Shanna have limitations, she refused to admit that she married some low-life criminal. It is those kind of limitations. He is very shy, and always of the respectful and honorable. It's so much fun to write, I really enjoy it.
And Jeanne, of course mine ends happily, I don't mind a little tragedy here and there but I love Happily Ever Afters so much more!

Jeanne · Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 1:39 am Post subject:

Good question. I think that Shanna's limitation sorta maybe was the fact that she had no name. Meaning she had the money but not the name to go with it. I mean a name that would advance her among the upper class. I think this is what her father wanted. He had the money but he needed her to have a name. I guess one could call this a limitation.

Cale, remember when I was talking about my genealogy and about these two people that married and the man was considered the "blacksheep" Well, I finally got the marriage certificate for the marriage. It was somewhat revealing. (I only bring this up because of the rich poor thing.) I knew that the woman was of the lower class and the man was of the higher class. It states on the certificate the witnesses. Her father was one witness but the witness for the man was his little brother who was only 16. They were also married in the church that he grew up in. Anyways, she did not grow up in this area but on the certificate it states that she was living in this area at the time of the marriage. Now that leads me to believe and this lady in England I've been in contact with that perhaps maybe she was a servant or of the working class that came to this area to work and perhaps that is why he is the blacksheep. His parents did not approve of the marriage. Also she told me that the marriage was by license and not by banns which she explained was done to get a marriage quick. Perhaps the marriage was done quick in order for them to leave England. This is all speculation but the romantic in me wants to believe that he married her for love and he cared not a wit that she was of the lower class. This lady and I think that maybe we will never know for sure if his parents even showed up. If they did then why not his father be the witness? Just a thought on the whole thing. Maybe how important class distinction was then. In Shanna, I had a feeling throughout the book that Ruark came from a well thought of family. But if the man was really poor and had no name, then I wonder too if this would be more difficult than if the woman was poor or of a lower class marrying a rich man.
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